Week 20 NFL Game Recaps

Mike & Kyle,

Agree with Kyle, disagree w/Mike. Teams win championships. Individuals have great performances that give their teams better chances & conversely individuals also have awful games that help cost their teams.

Saying Bradshaw was a better individual QB than Marino because "he" won championships #1 degrades the unreal defense Pittsburgh had during the 70's and the amazing O-Line they had (not to mention their running game & hall of fame WR's) & #2 overlooks the fact that Marino never had a running game & always had an average at best defense (yet still put up amazing stats against great defenses).

Saying Johnny Unitas & other QB legends like Otto Graham don't matter & you don't consider them to have played "real football" speaks volumes about the credibility of any statement that came before or after. Of all QB's to have ever played which ones were more protected by league rules? Which ones played under rules that allowed for clothesline & horse-collar tackles? Which ones play under a league setup that almost flags & fines anyone who sneezes the wrong way in the vicinity of a QB? While it is very difficult to compare QB's from different eras it is dismissive to write off an entire group that played before 1985 simply because you're not old enough to remember their accomplishments. I submit to you that the older era QB's had to be tougher because they weren't as protected and were subject to harsher hits before & after the whistle.

a few things missed in that SF-NYG recap
1) at least 2 ints that shouldve been picked off
2) NYG pass rush is good, but how about that SF pass rush? bet eli is still having nightmares
3) how does that Brandshaw fumble not count
4) Yes i am a bitter whiney SF fan WAHHHHHH!!!!!

p.s Kyle williams SUCKS!!!

@kyle
Your arguments are solid, and I like your points.

I would like to just say one thing. Top ten? You must be joking. I think it's got to be top 3 or top 5.
I mean who else is in there? Personally I'm not a fan at all of old timers such as unitas. I think that's a completely different game, I hardly even consider it football.
But let's review some names. Montana? Bradshaw? Manning? Who else? Marino?

Look I respect Marino, but bottomline is, you are never even considered top 20 in any sports if you haven't won it all. Since when is there a legend in any sport who never once won a championship in any sport? Marino had a good team too, so don't give me excuses.

Brady is not handsdown the best at the moment, he still has a thing or two to prove. But your so called "top ten" is a joke. absolute joke.
Lastly, I respectfully disagree with your comparison with marino and bradshaw. You can never convince me marino is better than bradshaw for the championship alone. Never. If you can't win it all, you don't deserve to be even considered elite, let alone in the sentence for best of all time. Period.

Easy argument for Tom Brady? It's such a preposterous argument to define a QB's greatness by championships. I'm sorry, isn't Dan Marino one of the four or five greatest ever? Is Terry Bradshaw in the top ten, let alone near Marino's level? Not a chance. Brady's one of the ten greatest, absolutely, but the pecking order in New England has always started with Bill Belichick, and when the Pats were winning Super Bowls it went 1) Belichick 2) Defense 3) Brady. They haven't won a championship since Brady become #2 (or 1-a.). Again, not taking anything away from Brady, he's an all-timer. But NE is a football industry, and that's the biggest reason they win--the industry ran by Belichcik.

I would like to know why the ravens did not take their last time out before they tried for the tying field goal. Looked like it was rushed, bad coaching by the ravens.

flacco played better than brady the whole game...

It's a shame Cundiff missed the kick, and Lee Evans dropped a pass.

Those two mistakes, and one lucky final drive obviously made people forget about what Flacco did the first 3 and a half quarters.

On the final two drive he threw some horrible passes that should have been picked. It was the typical horrible decisions Flacco always makes.

Earlier in the game, he completely UNDERthrew a wide open Torrey Smith that was a guaranteed touchdown. Smith had to stop and wait for the ball, and wait... and wait... and it only ended up being a first down because the defense was able to catch up.

Flacco's STATS were better than Brady's, but that doesn't mean he played good. It means the Baltimore DEFENSE DID THEIR JOB. Flacco and the Ravens were EXPECTED to score 20 on one of the worst defenses in the league.

Flacco did everything he could. Outside of that pick he was perfect.

The first "over-throw" to Torrey Smith was Smith's fault. Watch him go about 70% speed for 3 strides after Flacco's already released the ball. Smith then sees the ball coming his direction, get's an "Oh SH*T!" look on his face and starts running again, ending up a half yard short of the throw.

Lee Evans dropped a PERFECT pass for some inexplicable reason. The offensive line was laughably bad, giving up instant pressure on 3 man rushes while making Rob Ninkovich look like D-Ware. Even Ray Rice sucked for the majority of the game.

With his entire supporting cast failing him, Flacco put the offense on his back and outplayed Tom Brady.

Unfortunately for Lewis, Reed, Webb and Flacco Billy Cundiff and Lee Evans suck.

Fk ELI Walt. Those stats that you call impressive are a JOKE. He need nearly 60 passes to get those 300 yds & he only completed 55% to do it.

The 49'ers gave the Giants the game,...er Kyle Williams gave the Giants the game. Up 14-10 & Williams cant make up his mind to field or not. Hey Williams GET THE FK OUT OF THE WAY.

SF and NE were very, very lucky...

1)Ravens should win. I can't undestand how Lee Evans don't keep thet perfect pass from Flacco... and the, how can you miss a 32 yards field goal?

2) SF shuold win their game too. You are right about Williams mistakes, but SF defense also drop at least two interceptions (multiple players going to the same ball and crushing themselves).

NY and NE did a pretty good job, but they shouldn't be in the Superbowl.

Freudian slip typo: "Michael Crabtree caught one ball for three YEARS. "

Field Goal*

I know why Cundiff missed the Field Goa. He didn't want to hear Madonna at the Super Bowl.

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Lee Evans was not a signing Walter. It was a trade if you remember correctly. With the Bills, for a fourth round pick. What a waste!